secondary school life' tiring
students playing politics
leaders fooling around
classmates cheating
friends untrustworthy
hurting each others
what a rough game!
after today's incident, i still cant believe a once respected leader cheated the whole class. after confessing his lie, the whole class seems to get discouraged. "no man could be trusted", this phase keeps on ringing in my mind, why did i respect him? does he deserve respect from anyone? the whole class was STUN when he mentioned that he was lying. what a stunning confession!
"i, xxx hereby i swear, that whatever i say here is the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth" perhaps next time whoever who wants to talk in front of the class should swear that he will tell the truth similarly to the scenario in the court during trial.
today i learned a very good lesson that i regretted not learning it earlier, in fact this was not the first time i was cheated. what a pity. not only does one get hurt, being cheated and deceived could lead to depression too. whats your opinion? those who were part of this scenario, if u dare to tell me that you do not feel cheated, WAKE UP! condemn yourself for not having any dignity. don't you love not to be cheated or deceived?
did we ever come to school to learn how to play politics? or did our parents send us to school hoping that we can be a politician when we grow older? i rather be a student that to be a politician. Those who are involved, regret now! fooling around is not fun! what is the point of lying to your classmates with the intention of testing us when you actually hurt and stir the emotions of many?
why not we just cancel our plans? what is the point of having those pages but leaving behind so much grief, pain, sorrow, suffering, hurt, dissatisfaction and broken hearts? those pages are meant to leave behind momentous memories which will help us in cherishing valuable memories, cherishing friendship and bonds, and also appreciating each other...i urge everyone, just forget about all our initial plans, for plans in childish, evil and arrogant leaders' hands will not work but instead hurt.
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Before I give my comments, please understand that I actually respect your views and your feelings, so you do should respect my points too. Thank you.
Firstly, we have to know, our class has a problem, that is we never have teamwork especially in doing our class project. This is the problem and we definitely should face it and solve it. Maybe a wrong way was used to face the problem, but there is no doubt about this incident is a valuable lesson for us, for everyone!
You said:"why not we just cancel our plans? what is the point of having those pages but leaving behind so much grief, pain, sorrow, suffering, hurt, dissatisfaction and broken hearts?".
But if we're not going to face the problem, we're totally hypocritical!
"...those pages are meant to leave behind momentous memories which will help us in cherishing valuable memories, cherishing friendship and bonds, and also appreciating each other..."
If we really left this problem behind, that makes us only to have left sham memories, which about how good to be in our class with those classmates.
Or else, people will only remember the time he/she spends with his/her friends in his/her gang, but not the time spent with whole class, all classmates.
In my opinion, this is not about politics, but it is related with our personal growth. Maybe the message is not sent clearly to the classmate, and the leader is a bit "exaggerated", then make you all angry and misunderstand.
Sorry for causing any depression.
This is only a comment with no offense.
Good luck.
I know I am new in this school and I may not have the rights to say anything but I think what KJ did today was actually very good. He did not intend to hurt anyone at all. It wasn't about the money, nor the lies he told nor that success or failure achieved. It was a very valuable lesson sown into each and everyone's heart no matter what they might think about him. It shows that us humans tend to judge people due to the result they achieved example like today, 4 person eat about RM 80 1 meal. If they were told that they gain success, the class might(i use the word might) come out the money for their meal but when people know they did not gain any success, they start to make judgements like why would they eat so expensive. The whole class could just come out RM 2 each and just only RM 2 from each of our pockets. I am sure that is not too much to ask. It was not actually about the money but what they wanted to see most out of this class was SUPPORT. I am 100% sure that everyone would love to be appreciated for their hard work...agree? Everone might mock, hate or even redicule KJ but a very valuable lesson in life is thought through what people might say-foolishness. Although many people will hate him now but sooner or later, I know that they will understand the principle behind it.
This comment is not to support or oppose anyone at all. It is just a comment of my own opinion. Sorry if I sound rude. Sincerely did not mean it and forgive me if anyone feels offended. May the love of God be with all of you.
well, you are new and let me ask you how many years hav you know him? i know him since form 1, and i think sometimes it regretful to know him.
RM20 for lunch is expensive do matter he get the deal done or not. but if he get the deal done, at least we can accept that he needs to eat more to celebrate, but if he fail, do he still hav the face to waste RM20 in baskin robins?
do we need to show appreciation in terms of money only? dint i bring my camera and tripod to school? did u know that my camera equipments cost me RM6k and i could hav the risk of losing it in school? dint i support the team?
with his kind of attitude, he will be the first to fail in the workplace. furthermore, he knows the truth, success is more important than effort in todays modern society!
there are many methods to gain support and also test people. lying is definitely not the proper way to do things, only uncivilizes man deceive others! why not he juz go in front of the class and tell the truth?
till now i still cant believe a former head prefect could be fooling around
What's the point of "LYING" if u're going to reveal the truth few minutes later.
The whole blog was mostly stating kj's lies and cheats. But it just shows how ignorant u are.
Maybe u did not really heard what he says today.
听一点，不听一点, isnt really good.
hey haha,
where did i missed? i heard the whole speech of lies he gave, and finally when he confess, i felt like stabbing him. what kind of leader is it? that cheat and lie?
well, these people are not able to succeed in the corporate world if they have such attitude. Good luck to them for having such crafty mindset!
Its not confess, its reveal, pls get things right.
The whole thing is not as serious as u thought, oh yea, mayb u did not missed anything, just that u dont actually understand.Its not a lie nor cheat but a plan. What u heard was 99.9% lies ? Lie n cheat is not the right word to use. Other than concealing that they got the rm1.5k, its all real.
I know the way kj speaks/present is too firm , thats y it gets u all over serious about this issue. Its his nature, but if the one who present is theng, it could be another story.
later plz visit my blog to reveal all the truth...
http://www.wretch.cc/blog/vxavictor513
thank you
i completely agree to calvin's opinion...
attitude is the key to success...key to successful 'surprising plan'.
actually it's not the matter of money, but "is it worthy to spend the money".
the 'plan' is not a good idea.
Just stop the future or sucess thingy, its not related to this issue. For reasons and info, pls read
http://www.wretch.cc/blog/vxavictor513
wat kind of plan is it to tell people the lies? u think he only lie about one thing? he said that the place there do not hav mamak store! is that true? i've been around pavilion before and i can see many mamak store outside around the streets. so is he telling another lie? furthermore, he did not tell the whole truth. after revealing that he told a lie, it is a confession, he acknowledge that he lied to the whole class.
"Its not a lie nor cheat but a plan" well, a plan which involve lying and deceiving others is a lie and a cheat. get it? u can plan to lie and cheat, its still considered lying do matter wat plan u planned or wat intention you hav.
who said future and success is not related? dint you read kj's blog? he said something bout society arrogantly.
actually i'm very disappointed with kj's attitude. i did wonder how he manage to bacome the head prefect.
this time his awful plan had caused many to be dissatisfied, some to be hurt and others lose respect towards him.
It's over.
Don't blame the matter on one person!
Think out of the box, try forgiving people...
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Blame if and only if you can 100% make sure you won't act like that, you never lie, you never cheat, you never play fool on somebody and you NEVER MAKE A MISTAKE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Forgiving is better than blaming and destroying someone's reputation by spreading his fault!!!
If you think the "leader" is childish, then you should have a mature thinking.
ok.. CALVIN .. u seriously make me mad now .. it is not ur blog that make me mad .. u did said about kj's arrogant blog right ?? ok fine .. i admit that it is arrogant and rude .. he has his purpose of doing the whole "cheating" ... which unite the class and test the true nature of our classmate .. puan yeap did said it is not wrong to play but the method kj used is wrong .. i admit that kj is too harsh or rude .. but the thing that make me mad is the way u treat PEAK SENG .. u are the veteran of the class (as u said .. form 1 till now) u knew bout kj .. but the way u speak is totally not polite .. he's very neutral and u replied as if he was on KJ's SIDE ..
kj attitude is something like straight forward .. honest .. not hypocritical .. u wanna blame about the lunch ?? fine .. but they never even intend to claim it back ..
everyone blamed kj and co because they lied to u guys right ??? ok .. it might hav gone too far .. but the most affected is HUI NUAN .. she got cheated twice thats why she cried ..
however u totally exaggerate the whole matter .. it is suppose to be a joke .. and when kj is presenting .. EVERYONE (except 4) betray their friendship for money .. complaining .. because we failed to get the advertisement and yet go for such expensive lunch ...
wat happen next when kj revealed that it is some cheat ?? everyone was feeling remorseful and mad because they complained so much just now and kj made them revealed their true side ...
this is kj's true nature .. deal with it .. he is not hypocritical .. and if u said he is going to fail when he gone out to work .. i dun think so .. he is the best among the 5S2 students .. which can solve problems .. not studying like a worm ..
JUST DEAL WITH IT ..
a joke which end up stirring a war out of 5S2 students .. pathetic ..
why is this becoming so serious?
come on...
ok
KJ is wrong for cheating everyone
He really is
But 3-5 years of friendship
Just because of 1 lie that friendship bond is broken
Isn't that a little too childish???
OK
KJ is totally wrong
everything is his fault
he should never lie
he should never hurt anyone
But come on...
Why is everyone so serious about this?
Just 1 lie?
Just forgive and forget...
Is that really hard?
I just cannot stand beside looking at friendship broken just because of something so small
I don't mean to be rude or anything
I really hope that everyone can be friends
Laugh and play together like be4
I find this class very nice and fun
Even though I am new but everone tries so hard to make me feel like we were friends for years
I hope that everyone could just forgive and forget
Thats all...
I just would like to share with everyone how much we can learn from Matthew 5.
Matthew 5:22
But I tell you that anyone who is angry with his brother will be subject to judgement.
Matthew 5:44-45
But I tell you: Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, that you may be sons of your Father in heaven.
Matthew 5:48
Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect.
We as humans has no rights to tell you what you should do or not do because we ourselves are not perfect so I hope that at least the word of God can speak to you. Let not the devil laugh at what we are doing but He who is in us is stronger than the one who is in the world.
俺乃小辈
想说几句
把以下留言放邓伟伦的部落格
哪里知道事情果然如此
那个比当事人
更自负的人就真的
”封”了我的留言
只手遮天曾几时
万人有口终能说
“( Sealed Sealed at August 8, 2008 02:58 PM comment )”
_________________
冰冻三尺
非一日之寒
我们一直以来的
代沟、不满、不和谐
一直没显出来
并不代表没有
事不错于昨天讲话的人
昨天讲话的人
也是鼓起勇气
出来说几句公道话
人类丑恶何处无？
错不在于他
他只是一个揭开秘密的人
我还以为他会哭
但他能横眉冷对千夫指
我今天
写个“服”字给他
难道1500令吉
俯拾皆是？
据我所知
那一天
贡献三寸不烂之舌的
是KJ为多
绝非因对方妇人之仁
你们才赢得那1500
看来
你们这几人
已经重长计议
看来
前团长的口才
与其友之助
不容小觑
虽班和万事兴
班上的事情
始终非外人所能理解
请站一边
看了就算了
因为
我看了
也百思不得其解
事实也被扭转了
也因为
这里的作者
只有歉意
是低声下气
向每个人道歉
告诉每个人
“这是凯杰的错”
是公开的话
就不要删除我的留言
公开侮辱人
绝非君子所为
_________________
每个心里还存着希望的人
请别怪及今天一直
为我们付出的领袖
扭转事实
不想听不好听的话的人
就是封我之言的人
才是小人
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
今天我想帮凯杰说话
这里认识凯杰的人
谁不知道他的冷酷是掩饰他的善良
谁不知道他其实乐于助人
谁不知道别人只欠他
他从来不欠人
因为他好像很.......客气
谁不知道他是男生中其中一个最讲义气
可惜他所有的优点
都被你们掩饰了
大家好像钝了点吧
名副其实的钝胎….
http://www.wretch.cc/blog/moonsunlala/20896147
封
你很行哦！
到处传
正小人
我尊重叶老师
不和你追究
快停止了
小事一庄
客观了断
what 封 say is very right, but most of you only mind his/her offending words that's why you really cant see what's the most important message
冰冻三尺
非一日之寒
我们一直以来的
代沟、不满、不和谐
一直没显出来
并不代表没有
事不错于昨天讲话的人
昨天讲话的人
也是鼓起勇气
出来说几句公道话
人类丑恶何处无？
错不在于他
他只是一个揭开秘密的人
我还以为他会哭
但他能横眉冷对千夫指
我今天
写个“服”字给他
难道1500令吉
俯拾皆是？
据我所知
那一天
贡献三寸不烂之舌的
是KJ为多
绝非因对方妇人之仁
你们才赢得那1500
看来
你们这几人
已经重长计议
看来
前团长的口才
与其友之助
不容小觑
每个心里还存着希望的人
请别怪及今天一直
为我们付出的领袖
封，thank me for explaining for you bah. Before this you dislike theng, now you know the main culprit is C. But i aint attacking C. I also wanna share your message with everyone. Hope everyone can understand.
Well, what I see is, whatever mistakes he has done you guys hate. However he's one of the four person (or i can say he's the main person) who persuaded Kasturi representative and got 1500 for us. I must thank him first, before I start to hate him.
Bu guo..."错不在于他"
Wat KJ did was not oni correct but smart.
I totally support wat he did & if I were given d idea of doing tis, I wud.
U noe wat, tis class, has 1 big prob.
D prob is, V R NEVER UNITED.
I'm not talking abt groups or gangs or cliques. I'm talking abt teamwork & 2gedaness at times.
Even Peak Seng agrees wif wat KJ did!
So wat if he lied 2 us?
Y muz sum ppl refuse 2 let them claim d money?
Hey, they worked their asses off 4 d whole class ok? They nit 2 study, they nit 2 rest & u noe wat?
They willingly sacrificed those time 2 design tis & tat 4 us.
So y can't v juz pay bloody RM 2.50 s a token of appreciation, a sign of gratitude?
I dun believe tat our classmates r so poor they can't even pay RM 2.50.
Get real.
RM 2.50 can oni afford 1 nasi lemak, 5 single ice-cream cones, 1 plate of rice plus 1 hash brown.
R v tat ugly, stingy, frugal & ungrateful 2 refuse such a small payment?
I dun c y u muz relate tis 2 politics.
Tis isn't politics.
Tis is juz a mirror, 2 reflect d images of how ugly, how beautiful, how dark or how fair a person can b.
THINK AGAIN.
I am disappointed wif so many of d 5S2 students. Or do they even deserve 2 call themselves 5S2 students?
简单来说
一个人的丑恶显了出来
为了掩饰自己的羞耻
找出人家的罪行
怪在人家身上
这种人
我是司空见惯
我们这些很少奉献的
能做什么就做什么
哪怕钱多少
我相信他们肯定不会过分
我只知道他们需要朋友的支持
那位出来讲话的
我佩服－
开始拒绝
却挺身而出帮忙
跟父母吵架
熬夜没睡觉
冒险在班用电脑设计
4面设计赶了3面
毛遂自荐说服Kasturi
出外费用自己吞
我还没来得及谢他
为我们班做了这么多
我也没为班上奉献这么多
有什么资格说人家不好
班上忠臣很多啊
忠言始终逆耳
辩护
是看不惯一个最忠心的臣子
被视为最卑鄙的臣子
因而深受打击
相信只有以为自己奉献很多的人
能跟这人划同线
才敢用不好词句说他的吧
其他人
我并不是掩饰你们的功劳
不过现在被别人埋没的
是忠臣当中唯一让人指责的
不能不关注
我会站在贤能人士这边
也好过…(你懂我意思)
Calvin..just stop it.
Its not politics, its not future related. Why do i say so ? Try looking at the mirror and ask urself wat have u wrote in ur blog.
U were affected merely by few sentence of words (which is hurtful), and u end up shooting him off with few PARAGRAPHS or words/(some insult)/(some hurtful as well), what the hell is this ? And u dare to relate it to the future, like predicted that he will probably fail in the future.
You are no different. Getting worked up after reading some hurtful words/remarks. Now try to relate urself to the future.
Future this future that, politics this politics that, its all bullshit.
Please just stop it and try to forgive and forget. Chill dude.
Please dont get mad, im just being blunt. Sorry if it offended u.
God bless you.
totally agree with the 3 fellows above me .. up up .. everyone just look at the weakness of others and not at their strong points ... we do hav to admit that kj .. has done a lot for us .. he is indeed a bit too harsh .. or mayb u guys just cant accept that he is too HONEST ... some will blame him for causing all the problems .... but u guys are coward to face the truth ... COWARD ..
just stop barking now .. plz .. i'm totally bored about all these .. making matter worst by blogging
PEACE ~~~~~~~~~
thanks for all ur opinions
i would not say that anyone is wrong or right here as everybody hav their own point of view.
when someone did something bad and good, naturally the bad will be more obvious and will be focused.
is money the only way to show gratitude? if we do not agree means we do not appreciate their work?
exodus 20: "You shall not give false testimony against your neighbor.
kj had a good intention of wanting to unite the class, but i think he did it in the wrong way. instead he questioned the unity of our class and shaken the bonds between each of us.
i'm still learning how to be more neutral and think in the wider perspective.
ur can say anything but i still will take my stand. so lets close this case and let it be a lesson to each of us. i simply hope that things could happen the other way.
输了...吻我屁股吧
anonymous,
who r u? wat the hell r u doing here? why are u so scared to reveal who u r but hide under ur grandmother's dress when u want to challenge people? pls remember that cyberspace is not mend to challenge people without giving identification? only cowards challenge and hide!
i dint say i lose, but i think we should tolerate each other. i've learn a lesson, wat is the point of arguing? to cause more disunity?
Come on
Who is this anonymous
We just closed the case and stop stirring things up again
And if possible
Don put 'anonymous' as your name
No one likes it
And do not use foul language here
Ty
this is the internet. "we" have the rights to remain anonymous
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